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Whitetail Sanctuary said:

I have feed the Wild deer on my farm all the whole kernel corn (they DO NOT like cracked corn) for 10+ years sometimes I have had them consume 200lbs in 12 hours or less from my feed table less than 100 yards from my front door Sept to late March and NEVER seen a Decrease in the number of deer numbers on My farm.........I don't buy the theory that "To Much Corn" Will kill deer..........Just from my own prolonged observations!



I have also found My pen deer are less than fond of large amounts of cracked corn in their diet either.

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Do you think think that the wild deer you are feeding are only eating the corn you put out? Common sense should tell you they eat other browse.

Go ahead and feed your deer(in your pens) only corn then tell me what you think afterwards.

If you check the past forums so called deer corn not feed corn has been known to have mold which kills deer.

an article on

www.farmanddairy.com/...corn/...deer.../ ...

explains acute acidosis and how it kills deer within 72 hours

Some people just learn the hard way....good luck

Dean

Dean, I didn't say they were only eating corn! and yeah I only feed my deer in the pen piles of corn only!!!! Lol Common sense.......Wish we all had it!



Best of Luck

I didn't say you feed your pen deer only corn i was suggesting that if you dont believe me that it will kill deer try it for yourself.

I think your wild deer observations don't prove or disprove anything,are you saying in ten years you have never seen a decrease in deer numbers?

So I assume there is no hunting anywhere around you?

My experience with baiting wild deer the longer you do it the more show up so in fact you should see an increase in deer numbers.

If the numbers never decrease you must have thousands of them unless they arent breeding.

I have a friend who baits deer he killed around 10 on one property this year this is in a residential area with small woodlots -at the end of this season he still had more deer showing up than in the begining of the season ...go figure.

my theories arent theories they are facts.

thanks again sorry this post got off track

Dean

Dean, your right sorry to get off subject!



Best of Luck

Bypass technology is something Purina developed, also extruded pelleted feed. They have a patent on the extrusion process. It is the same thing used in making Cheerios and Cheetos. They have been around 100 years and never stop trying to improve their feed. Their 1000 acre plus facility in Missouri is pretty amazing.

Wild Rivers Whitetails said:

Bypass technology is something Purina developed,

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Tell that to Asian farmers who have been using manure's to increase nitrogen in low quality feed or protien which survives the rumen for a millenium.



Sharkey

They developed ways of protecting various nutrients in the pelleted feed through the extrusion process to get it through the rumen to the desired location.

sharkey said:

Tell that to Asian farmers who have been using manure's to increase nitrogen in low quality feed or protien which survives the rumen for a millenium.



Sharkey

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This sounds like a fight for a CWD crazy guy with a degree. Manure used for anything that feeds anmals. WRONG!

Four Seasons Whitetails said:

This sounds like a fight for a CWD crazy guy with a degree. Manure used for anything that feeds anmals. WRONG!

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Mike read the post & take it in the context it was ment.

That is, that by pass & non protien nitrogen feeds are not new or just recently developed by a feed company, as was implied.



Before chemical fertiliser (urea) was developed rice farmers would feed their tractors (buffalo,cattle) low value feed like the stubble, because if anything could be eaten by a human it was. These animals were often milked twice a day as well as the work they were required to perform. It was very apparent that when chicken manure was added to the stubble or straw rations that these animals maintained much better condition than the ones which didn't recieve it.Today urea is avaliable everywhere & this has replaced manure. Sorry for the history lesson but I hope you see how & were these ideas come from. They are not new, though the packaging & marketing may be.



I could also rant on about tricking the esophageal groove at weening to bypass certain high protien feeds from the rumen to the true stomach & how this reflex can be extended into adulthood, but I'm sure its just old hat as well.



Cheers Sharkey